[Pw_forum] Titanium atomic positions

Bertrand SITAMTZE siyouber at yahoo.fr
Thu Sep 3 09:57:16 CEST 2009


Dear udayagiri,

Thank very much for this clear answer. I will do it with 

ATOMIC_POSITIONS crystal
Ti 0.3333  0.6666  0.2500

Ti 0.6666  0.3333  0.7500


Many thanks once again

*********************

Bertrand SITAMTZE

PhD student

Department of Physics

University of Yaoundé I-Cameroon

***********************


--- En date de : Mer 2.9.09, udayagiri sai babu <udayagiri3 at gmail.com> a écrit :

De: udayagiri sai babu <udayagiri3 at gmail.com>
Objet: Re: [Pw_forum] Titanium atomic positions
À: Giovanni.Cantele at na.infn.it, "PWSCF Forum" <pw_forum at pwscf.org>
Date: Mercredi 2 Septembre 2009, 20h52

i am sorry for the previous message which i could not type completely.T his is what i mean

for the ATOMIC_POSITIONS if you choose "crystal" your lattice coordinates are correct
Ti 0.3333  0.6666  0.2500

Ti 0.6666  0.3333  0.7500

or else you can represent same as 
ATOMIC_POSITIONS (crystal)

Ti 0 0 0
Ti 0.333333  0.666666  0.500000
both are same except they are displaced by (1/3,2/3,1/4)

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:18 AM, udayagiri sai babu <udayagiri3 at gmail.com> wrote:

for the ATOMIC_POSITIONS if you choose "crystal" your lattice coordinates are correct

Ti 0.3333  0.6666  0.2500
Ti 0.6666  0.3333  0.7500

or else you can represent same as 
ATOMIC_POSITIONS (crystal)

Ti 0  0.2500
Ti 0.6666  0.3333  0.7500

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Giovanni Cantele <Giovanni.Cantele at na.infn.it> wrote:


Bertrand SITAMTZE wrote:

> Dear Giovanni,

>

> My coordinates are those taken from 2c position of

> the crystallographic space group  table. I though these correspond to

> the default (alat) in quantum espresso,

> in which case mentioning is not mandatory. Isn't it?

>

> Thanks once more

>



It is not mandatory to specify the default, but I'm not very sure that

your coordinates are in alat units. From

http://cst-www.nrl.navy.mil/lattice/struk/a3.html

I understand that (1/3,2/3,1/4) and (2/3,1/3,3/4) are in terms of the

A1, A2 and A3 vectors rather than

the x, y z axes versors. alat positions are cartesian coordinates (in

unit of celldm(1)), which are the same as crystal coordinates only for a

simple cubic lattice.



If I'm not wrong, as pointed out by someone else, you should check that

the A1, A2, A3 choice shown in the

above link is the same as in Quantum-ESPRESSO (for the latter please

have a look to Doc/INPUT_PW* ). If not, you may specify your own lattice

vectors by using the CELL_PARAMETERS card.



Giovanni





>

> --- En date de : *Mer 2.9.09, Giovanni Cantele

> /<Giovanni.Cantele at na.infn.it>/* a écrit :

>

>

>     De: Giovanni Cantele <Giovanni.Cantele at na.infn.it>

>     Objet: Re: [Pw_forum] Titanium atomic positions

>     À: "PWSCF Forum" <pw_forum at pwscf.org>

>     Date: Mercredi 2 Septembre 2009, 16h48

>

>     Beside the check of the hcp unit cell, which is crucial, I also guess

>     that you gave the input positions

>     in "crystal" units, didn't you? If it is the case, I think that you

>     should add the "{ crystal }" string after ATOMIC_POSITIONS.

>     Indeed, the

>     default is "alat" units, I think, namely, cartesian coordinates in

>     celldm(1) units.

>

>     Also do not forget to check the convergence of your results with

>     respect

>     to ecutrho. The default value (4*ecutwfc) must be usually

>     increased (6

>     to 12 times ecutwfc) if, as in you case, ultrasoft

>     pseudopotentials are

>     used.

>

>     Giovanni

>

>

>     Hande Ustunel wrote:

>     > Dear Bertrand,

>     >

>     > Your atomic positions are rather off with a large gap between

>     rumpled Ti

>     > layers. Perhaps you should double-check that your definition of

>     the hcp

>     > unit cell matches that for ibrav=4 in the code. You can find this

>     > information in the Doc directory in your copy of espresso.

>     >

>     > Besides, you should be able to check your structure for yourself

>     using

>     > xcrysden (--pwi option).

>     >

>     > Best wishes,

>     > Hande

>     >

>     > On Wed, 2 Sep 2009, Bertrand SITAMTZE wrote:

>     >

>     >

>     >> Dear all,

>     >>

>     >> Titanium belongs to the     hexagonal P63/mmc

>     >> (n° 194) space group. I would like somebody to confirm that my

>     attached

>     >> input section concerning the bravais lattice and specially the

>     atomic positions are good.

>     >>

>     >> &SYSTEM

>     >> ibrav=4

>     >> celldm(1)=5.576203

>     >> celldm(3)=1.587874

>     >> nat=2

>     >> ntyp=1

>     >> ecutwfc=40.0

>     >> /

>     >> &ELECTRONS

>     >> diagonalization='cg'

>     >> /

>     >> ATOMIC_SPECIES

>     >> Ti 47.867 Ti.pw91-nsp-van.UPF

>     >> ATOMIC_POSITIONS

>     >> Ti 0.3333  0..6666  0.2500

>     >> Ti 0.6666  0.3333  0.7500

>     >> K_POINTS automatic

>     >> 8 8 4 0 0 0

>     >>

>     >>

>     >> Best regards

>

*********************

>     Bertrand SITAMTZE

>     PhD student

>     Department of Physics

>     University of Yaoundé I-Cameroon

>      ***********************

>

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