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Dear all,<div><br></div><div>Sorry to ask so many questions about computing phonon frequencies but recently i have got some strange results for one of the systems I am working on. My work involves computing phonon frequencies for a 42 carbon at the Gamma point so in total 126 irreducible representations. in a previous calculations, my input was:</div><div><br></div><div><u>SCF FILE</u></div><div><span lang="PT-BR" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</span></div><div>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR" style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;/<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR" style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&amp;system&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR" style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ibrav= 0, celldm(1) =1.88972599, nat=42,
ntyp= 1, ecutwfc =32, ecutrho=128, occupations='smearing', smearing='mp',degauss=0.01<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR" style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR" style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">/<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR" style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&amp;electrons<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR" style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; conv_thr=1.D-6,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR" style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; mixing_beta=0.7D0,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR" style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; diago_david_ndim=2,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR" style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><br></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR" style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">ATOMIC_SPECIES<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;C&nbsp;
12.0107&nbsp; C.pbe-rrkjus.UPF<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR"><o:p>&nbsp;...</o:p></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR"><o:p><br></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR"><o:p><u>PH FILE:</u></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><br></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">Phonon
calculation for GB60 at gamma point<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&amp;inputph<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp; tr2_ph=1.0d-15,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp; prefix='GrBo42ph',<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp; fildvscf='GB60dvscf',<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp; elph=.true.,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">.....</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR"><br></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">The results obtained were:</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR"><br></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">omega(
1) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -4.450324 [THz] =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -148.446823 [cm-1]<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; omega( 2) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -3.144068 [THz] =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -104.874835 [cm-1]<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; omega( 3) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2.963314 [THz] =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 98.845504 [cm-1]<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; omega( 4) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3.454797 [THz] =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 115.239637 [cm-1]<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; omega( 5) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3.908880 [THz] =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 130.386191 [cm-1]<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText">.</p><p class="MsoPlainText">.</p><p class="MsoPlainText">.</p><p class="MsoPlainText"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;omega(**) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 47.380063 [THz] =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1580.428796 [cm-1]<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; omega(**) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 47.573318 [THz] =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1586.875087 [cm-1]<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; omega(**) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 47.821300 [THz] =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1595.146853 [cm-1]<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; omega(**) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 48.119632 [THz] =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1605.098137 [cm-1]<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR"><br></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR">Where the 2 negative frequencies,as professor Gionazzi repeated several times, could be due to the violation of the ASR rule.</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR"><br></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText">For my own piece of mind I repeated the calculation with a better accuracy where ecutrho=256 (8 times ecutwfc which should be the case if an ultrasoft potential is used)and tr2_ph =10^(-17) although mixing_beta was set equal to 0.3 this time. I expected better results but what I got was the following:</p><p class="MsoPlainText"><br></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">omega(&nbsp;
1 -&nbsp; 1) =&nbsp; -77614121.2&nbsp;
[cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
omega(&nbsp; 2 -&nbsp; 2) =&nbsp;
-13157144.1&nbsp; [cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
omega(&nbsp; 3 -&nbsp; 3) =&nbsp;&nbsp;
-5577066.3&nbsp; [cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
omega(&nbsp; 4 -&nbsp; 4) =&nbsp;&nbsp;
-4332492.8&nbsp; [cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
omega(&nbsp; 5 -&nbsp; 5) =&nbsp;&nbsp;
-4094962.7&nbsp; [cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
omega(&nbsp; 6 -&nbsp; 6) =&nbsp;&nbsp;
-3368158.6&nbsp; [cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
omega(&nbsp; 7 -&nbsp; 7) =&nbsp;&nbsp;
-2781643.0&nbsp; [cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
omega(&nbsp; 8 -&nbsp; 8) =&nbsp;&nbsp;
-2403295.2&nbsp; [cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
omega(&nbsp; 9 -&nbsp; 9) =&nbsp;&nbsp;
-1777809.3&nbsp; [cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
omega( 10 - 10) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
82.5&nbsp; [cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A''&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
omega( 11 - 11) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
85.8&nbsp; [cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A''&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;omega(120 -120) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
2301243.8&nbsp; [cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
omega(121 -121) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
2494732.0&nbsp; [cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
omega(122 -122) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
2788571.0&nbsp; [cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
omega(123 -123) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
3135326.3&nbsp; [cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
omega(124 -124) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
3630869.3&nbsp; [cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
omega(125 -125) =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
8808450.4&nbsp; [cm-1]&nbsp;&nbsp; --&gt; A'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I+R</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">What is the reason for those LARGE negative values at the beginning and the LARGE ones at the end? Is it because mixing_beta was changed?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">Thanks for the help</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">Elie Koukaes</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT-BR">University of Nottingham</span></p><p class="MsoNormal">NG7 2RD</p><p class="MsoNormal">UK</p></span></p></p></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR"><br></span></p></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="PT-BR"><br></span></p></p></span></p></div>                                               </div></body>
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