<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; ">Dear Gabriele </span><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; "></span><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Yes, it is the same with vasp.<br>
</span></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:40 PM,  <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pw_forum-request@pwscf.org">pw_forum-request@pwscf.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
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   1. Re: Constraints HOWTO (Paolo Giannozzi)<br>
   2. Re: confirm 63d7beb150c220f0275a453fc134e323bbbcd213<br>
      (Paolo Giannozzi)<br>
   3. Cannot run parallel jobs with openmpi (Jiaye Li)<br>
   4. Re: Cannot run parallel jobs with openmpi (Gabriele Sclauzero)<br>
   5. Re: Cannot run parallel jobs with openmpi (Lorenzo Paulatto)<br>
   6. ee potential (ali kazempour)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:35:08 +0100<br>
From: Paolo Giannozzi &lt;<a href="mailto:giannozz@democritos.it">giannozz@democritos.it</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] Constraints HOWTO<br>
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Jairo Arbey Rodriguez Martinez wrote:<br>
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&gt; I have used both: car-parrinello md (damped, with program cp.x)<br>
<br>
this should work, I think<br>
<br>
&gt;  and in pw.x, ion_dynamics = bfgs (default)<br>
<br>
this is not implemented, I think. I know nothing about constraints,<br>
but you should as a first step find cases in which the existing<br>
constraint work, before adding new ones<br>
<br>
P.<br>
--<br>
Paolo Giannozzi, Democritos and University of Udine, Italy<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:36:47 +0100<br>
From: Paolo Giannozzi &lt;<a href="mailto:giannozz@democritos.it">giannozz@democritos.it</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] confirm<br>
        63d7beb150c220f0275a453fc134e323bbbcd213<br>
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patriot pershing wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; i&#39;m a new user of quantum espresso soft<br>
<br>
this was already clear from the ill-chosen subject<br>
<br>
P.<br>
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Paolo Giannozzi, Democritos and University of Udine, Italy<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:00:01 +0800<br>
From: Jiaye Li &lt;<a href="mailto:jameslipd@gmail.com">jameslipd@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: [Pw_forum] Cannot run parallel jobs with openmpi<br>
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The problem has been fixed. PWscf should be installed after the compilation<br>
of mpi binary. Thanks.<br>
<br>
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:15 PM, &lt;<a href="mailto:pw_forum-request@pwscf.org">pw_forum-request@pwscf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;   1. Re: how to set nr1b, nr2b,        nr3b for cp.x when using ultrasoft<br>
&gt;      pseudopotential (Paolo Giannozzi)<br>
&gt;   2. Re: Virtual crystal approximation for vacancy (Paolo Giannozzi)<br>
&gt;   3. Re: Cannot run parallel jobs with openmpi (Paolo Giannozzi)<br>
&gt;   4. Re: lowdin charge (Gabriele Sclauzero)<br>
&gt;   5. Re: confirm 63d7beb150c220f0275a453fc134e323bbbcd213<br>
&gt;      (patriot pershing)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt; Message: 1<br>
&gt; Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:00:21 +0100<br>
&gt; From: Paolo Giannozzi &lt;<a href="mailto:giannozz@democritos.it">giannozz@democritos.it</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] how to set nr1b, nr2b,  nr3b for cp.x when<br>
&gt;        using ultrasoft         pseudopotential<br>
&gt; To: PWSCF Forum &lt;<a href="mailto:pw_forum@pwscf.org">pw_forum@pwscf.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:F09F6E59-2AF7-48BB-A81D-85D5DA8B8A6D@democritos.it">F09F6E59-2AF7-48BB-A81D-85D5DA8B8A6D@democritos.it</a>&gt;<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Nov 18, 2009, at 6:17 , vega lew wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I have a question about the option &quot;nr1b, nr2b, nr3b&quot; in &amp;SYSTEM<br>
&gt; &gt; namelist.<br>
&gt; &gt; Could you please tell me something more about it?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href="http://www.quantum-espresso.org/user_guide/node30.html" target="_blank">http://www.quantum-espresso.org/user_guide/node30.html</a><br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; P.<br>
&gt; ---<br>
&gt; Paolo Giannozzi, Dept of Physics, University of Udine<br>
&gt; via delle Scienze 208, 33100 Udine, Italy<br>
&gt; Phone +39-0432-558216, fax +39-0432-558222<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt; Message: 2<br>
&gt; Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:01:25 +0100<br>
&gt; From: Paolo Giannozzi &lt;<a href="mailto:giannozz@democritos.it">giannozz@democritos.it</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] Virtual crystal approximation for vacancy<br>
&gt; To: PWSCF Forum &lt;<a href="mailto:pw_forum@pwscf.org">pw_forum@pwscf.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:E9611A54-AE82-4A19-BA27-5F30598BDCF4@democritos.it">E9611A54-AE82-4A19-BA27-5F30598BDCF4@democritos.it</a>&gt;<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Nov 18, 2009, at 5:48 , yuning wu wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I am considering to use virtual crystal approximation to study a<br>
&gt; &gt; system<br>
&gt; &gt; with vacancy doped<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; not a good idea IMHO - P.<br>
&gt; ---<br>
&gt; Paolo Giannozzi, Dept of Physics, University of Udine<br>
&gt; via delle Scienze 208, 33100 Udine, Italy<br>
&gt; Phone +39-0432-558216, fax +39-0432-558222<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ------------------------------<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Message: 3<br>
&gt; Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:03:17 +0100<br>
&gt; From: Paolo Giannozzi &lt;<a href="mailto:giannozz@democritos.it">giannozz@democritos.it</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] Cannot run parallel jobs with openmpi<br>
&gt; To: PWSCF Forum &lt;<a href="mailto:pw_forum@pwscf.org">pw_forum@pwscf.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:EFA84267-2893-4497-B485-88917A91913F@democritos.it">EFA84267-2893-4497-B485-88917A91913F@democritos.it</a>&gt;<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Nov 18, 2009, at 3:24 , Jiaye Li wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I am wondering if openmpi is compatible with pwscf?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; PWscf is compatible with all MPI implementations (as<br>
&gt; long as they work)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; P.<br>
&gt; ---<br>
&gt; Paolo Giannozzi, Dept of Physics, University of Udine<br>
&gt; via delle Scienze 208, 33100 Udine, Italy<br>
&gt; Phone +39-0432-558216, fax +39-0432-558222<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ------------------------------<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Message: 4<br>
&gt; Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:54:25 +0100<br>
&gt; From: Gabriele Sclauzero &lt;<a href="mailto:sclauzer@sissa.it">sclauzer@sissa.it</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] lowdin charge<br>
&gt; To: PWSCF Forum &lt;<a href="mailto:pw_forum@pwscf.org">pw_forum@pwscf.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:4B03A831.6090508@sissa.it">4B03A831.6090508@sissa.it</a>&gt;<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; yaldaa kh wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;  dear all<br>
&gt; &gt; I performed pdos calculation(scf ,nscf pdos) for Cu slab ,but in lowdin<br>
&gt; &gt; charge, the Cu-p had some charge while p orbitals in Cu atom<br>
&gt; &gt; are unoccupied. if this result is wrong?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Not necessarily. It depends on how much is &quot;some charge&quot;. You are right<br>
&gt; when you say that<br>
&gt; in the Cu atom p orbitals are unoccupied (strictly), but in a solid the<br>
&gt; situation is<br>
&gt; different. Also empty orbitals may be involved in the binding, for instance<br>
&gt; when some<br>
&gt; charge transfer takes place (remember that in Cu the 3d shell is full and<br>
&gt; there is place<br>
&gt; for only 1e- in the 4s).<br>
&gt; Because of this, pseudopotentials usually include among the projectors (or<br>
&gt; in the local<br>
&gt; channel) electronic states which can be empty in the atom, but not too much<br>
&gt; higher in<br>
&gt; energy wrt the occupied ones (e.g., in Cu, which is [Ar] 3d10 4s1, also 4p<br>
&gt; are included<br>
&gt; since they are only 3-4 eV higher than 4s).<br>
&gt; So, if you have the 4p channel in your PP, you will get also the 4p<br>
&gt; projection file from<br>
&gt; projwfc.x, but these states should be restricted to a high energy region.<br>
&gt; Have you checked<br>
&gt; how much 4p charge (if any) is found BELOW the Fermi energy?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; GS<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; thanks a lot<br>
&gt; &gt; yaldaa Kh.<br>
&gt; &gt; chem. student<br>
&gt; &gt; Azad university Iran<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt; Message: 5<br>
&gt; Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:01:17 +0100<br>
&gt; From: patriot pershing &lt;<a href="mailto:science35@gmail.com">science35@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] confirm<br>
&gt;        63d7beb150c220f0275a453fc134e323bbbcd213<br>
&gt; To: <a href="mailto:pw_forum@pwscf.org">pw_forum@pwscf.org</a><br>
&gt; Message-ID:<br>
&gt;        &lt;<a href="mailto:9fdec6370911180001w668d0a1id8b9bf9e87ce121c@mail.gmail.com">9fdec6370911180001w668d0a1id8b9bf9e87ce121c@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt; dear please<br>
&gt; i&#39;m a new user of quantum espresso soft and i would run this soft under<br>
&gt; windows environemment using cygwin but i haven&#39;t arrived to do this, for<br>
&gt; this reason i would ask if any one can help me by giving me the detailed<br>
&gt; procedure ot install and run quantum espresso under cygwin<br>
&gt; thanks<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:04:51 +0100<br>
From: Gabriele Sclauzero &lt;<a href="mailto:sclauzer@sissa.it">sclauzer@sissa.it</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] Cannot run parallel jobs with openmpi<br>
To: PWSCF Forum &lt;<a href="mailto:pw_forum@pwscf.org">pw_forum@pwscf.org</a>&gt;<br>
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Jiaye Li wrote:<br>
&gt; The problem has been fixed. PWscf should be installed after the<br>
&gt; compilation of mpi binary. Thanks.<br>
<br>
Isn&#39;t it the same with VASP?<br>
<br>
GS<br>
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Sincerely yours<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jiaye Li<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:27:19 +0100<br>
From: &quot;Lorenzo Paulatto&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:paulatto@sissa.it">paulatto@sissa.it</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] Cannot run parallel jobs with openmpi<br>
To: &quot;PWSCF Forum&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:pw_forum@pwscf.org">pw_forum@pwscf.org</a>&gt;<br>
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Replying to message &quot;Re: [Pw_forum] Cannot run parallel jobs with openmpi&quot;<br>
 from Gabriele Sclauzero (18/11/09):<br>
&gt;&gt; The problem has been fixed. PWscf should be installed after the<br>
&gt;&gt; compilation of mpi binary. Thanks.<br>
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&gt; Isn&#39;t it the same with VASP?<br>
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It would be quite astonishing if you could run mpi software *without* the<br>
mpi libraries. The next step would be to try without a computer ;-).<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:40:40 -0800 (PST)<br>
From: ali kazempour &lt;<a href="mailto:kazempoor2000@yahoo.com">kazempoor2000@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: [Pw_forum] ee potential<br>
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Dear All<br>
I used EE correction for charged supercell and after that three output was generated that I don&#39;t know what are they?Could anyone tell me what are they?<br>
vloc1.dat<br>
vloc2.dat<br>
vcorrz.dat<br>
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thanks a lot<br>
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 Ali Kazempour<br>
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Fritz-Haber-Institut              fax   : ++49-30-8413 4701<br>
der Max-Planck-Gesellschaft<br>
Faradayweg 4-6                    e-mail: <a href="mailto:kazempou@fhi-berlin.mpg.de">kazempou@fhi-berlin.mpg.de</a><br>
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