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<br><div><div>On Oct 3, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Axel Kohlmeyer wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Vidur Parkash wrote:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">dear vidur,</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">VP> Sorry bout that....yes I meant K_POINTS, is there any thumb rule for</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">VP> deciding how many K-points are good for convergence. Is it dependent</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">VP> on the nature of the system, or on the number of atoms or something</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">VP> else</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">how about picking up a text book about condensed matter electron</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">structure calculations and answering that question yourself?</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">look for BZ-sampling...</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">you might find the answers to some other (future) problems, too. :)</div></blockquote><br></div><div>Vidur: as an "old-style" professor, I tend to sympathize with Axel's viewpoint (who, by the way, is much younger than me!). If you choose to trust Axel's advice, a very good starting point is Richard Martin's textbook on electronic structure. Richard has been kind enough (and smart enough with the publishing company) to make a few selected chapters of his textbook available on the net. Vidur: you are very lucky! What you need can be downloaded for free from here: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></font></div><div><a href="http://electronicstructure.org/Selected_Chapters/Martin-ch04.pdf">http://electronicstructure.org/Selected_Chapters/Martin-ch04.pdf</a></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Of course, the free download wil not save you from a few afternoons of hard study. If you like it, please do not refrain from downloading (and studying!) the other chapters too.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Good luck! 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