[Pw_forum] failure with NCPP

lan haiping lanhaiping at gmail.com
Tue Jul 21 03:30:18 CEST 2009


Dear Eric and Luke:

I have  tested the total energy over cutoff , it gives me a 60 Hatree for
ZnO to get 0.003 Hatree convergence.
It seems a bit large for this configuration , and  i will take your
suggestion to get a smooth one .
Best wishes,

Hai-Ping
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Eric J. Walter <ejwalt at wm.edu> wrote:

>
> Dear Haiping and Luke,
>
> The kink is due to the GGA functional and it occurs in both TM and Opt
> forms of the psp (and in other psp generation codes as well using similar
> parameters).  This does not result in a large cut-off energy, which
> Haiping may have known since he probably checked the energy
> convergence w.r.t. cut-off energy. (?)
>
> The psp can be regenerated with the directive to smooth the XC potential
> before a certain radius.  This is done by adding either a positive or
> negative (for two different smoothing methods) after "gga" in the XC
> block.  If I add -0.02, I get a very nice looking potential.
>
> I think that any further opium questions/discussions should be sent to
> the opium mailing list:  opium-talk at sourceforge.net
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> lan haiping wrote:
> > Dear Luke,
> >
> > I tested this pseudopotential for Zinc  bulk (Hex), and got   well
> > comparable lattice constants 2.65 , 4.97 \AA,  and the bulk module is
> > 74.2 KBar by fitting Murnaghan Equation (Energy cutoff was set to 50
> > Hartree) .   Opium's test also gives small differences for eigenvalues
> > from different configurations.
> >
> > Is there any way to improve the quality or remove the kink you
> > mentioned ?  I forgot to check ionic potential, and just found it
> > indeed has a large kink .
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > regards,
> > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Luke Shulenburger
> > <lshulenburger at ciw.edu <mailto:lshulenburger at ciw.edu>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hello,
> >
> >     I took a quick look at these pseudopotentials.  The first thing I
> >     found is that the problem seems to be related to  the augmentation
> >     functions.  I removed the second and third line after KBdesign in the
> >     Zn input and the potential loads into pwscf without issue.  I haven't
> >     used augmentation functions much, so I'm not sure quite what the
> >     problem is.  I know Eric Walter looks at this list from time to time,
> >     perhaps he could comment on the reason for this.  The other thing is
> >     that the the output from opium for the Zn pseudopotential looks
> >     somewhat strange.  As an example, the plots of the ionic potential
> are
> >     not very smooth at all and there are large kinks near the origin
> which
> >     will likely result an a very high plane wave cutoff being necessary
> to
> >     get converged results.  Has this potential been tested?
> >
> >     Sincerely,
> >     Luke Shulenburger
> >     (lshulenburger at ciw.edu <mailto:lshulenburger at ciw.edu>)
> >     Geophysical Laboratory
> >     Carnegie Institution of Washington
> >     5251 Broad Branch Rd. NW
> >     Washington, DC 20015
> >
> >
> >     On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:28 AM, lan haiping<lanhaiping at gmail.com
> >     <mailto:lanhaiping at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >     > Dear Paolo,
> >     > Thanks .
> >     > I then check input settings for opium ,  and find the
> >     wavefunctions are
> >     > already arranged by increasing 'l'.
> >     >  The setting for Zn  pseudopotential  is following:
> >     > "
> >     > [Atom]
> >     > Zn
> >     > 8                   # norb: number of orbitals
> >     > 100  2.00  -        # nlm occ eigen(- means auto-generate)
> >     > 200  2.00  -
> >     > 210  6.00  -
> >     > 300  2.00  -
> >     > 310  6.00  -
> >     > 400  1.50  -
> >     > 410  0.00  -
> >     > 320  10.00  -
> >     >
> >     > [Pseudo]
> >     > 3  1.87 1.85 1.97
> >     > opt
> >     >
> >     > [Optinfo]
> >     > 7.07 10
> >     > 7.07 10
> >     > 7.07 10
> >     > [XC]
> >     > gga               # lda[PZ] or gga[PBE]
> >     >
> >     > [KBdesign]
> >     > 0                 # local orb
> >     > 1                # number of aug. operators
> >     > au 0.1 1.60 -3.05  # unit(gp or au)  left  right  height(Ry)
> >     > [Loginfo]
> >     > 0
> >     > 2.0 -4.0 4.0
> >     > "
> >     > and for O is
> >     > "
> >     > [Atom]
> >     > O
> >     > 3
> >     > 100   2.00   -
> >     > 200   2.00   -
> >     > 210   4.00   -
> >     > [Pseudo]
> >     > 2  1.34 1.53
> >     > opt
> >     > [Optinfo]
> >     > 7.07  10
> >     > 7.07  10
> >     > conmax
> >     > [XC]
> >     > gga
> >     > "
> >     >
> >     > I donot know why these PP cannot be read by pw.x .
> >     > By the way, is there any simple method to use  opium's settings  in
> >     > ld1.x   ?
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Regards,
> >     >
> >     > Hai-Ping
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Paolo Giannozzi
> >     <giannozz at democritos.it <mailto:giannozz at democritos.it>>
> >     > wrote:
> >     >>
> >     >> lan haiping wrote:
> >     >>
> >     >> > I wonder  whether QE still support NCPP format
> >     >>
> >     >> it does, otherwise it would have issued a different message
> >     >>
> >     >> > or other special consideration needs to take into for opium's
> >     pp ?
> >     >>
> >     >> atomic wavefunctions should be in order of increasing l.
> >     >> Not sure why this is needed and whethere it is really needed.
> >     >>
> >     >> P.
> >     >> --
> >     >> Paolo Giannozzi, Democritos and University of Udine, Italy
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> >     > Department of Electronics ,
> >     > Peking University , Bejing, 100871
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Hai-Ping Lan
Department of Electronics ,
Peking University , Bejing, 100871
lanhaiping at gmail.com, hplan at pku.edu.cn
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